There are ways to keep ahead, but only if you constantly crystal farm and go hard at it. Go to idleon r/idleon. Lv 381 DK. DK handles 2 platforms fine, single is better but there's nothing better in w1 As for why beans over gmush, I'd guess mob density? Then use bubo for farming money and late game. Generally best not to farm them until you have bubo up and running. 1. Yuri_The_Avocado • 9 mo. gewalt_gamer 1 yr. Cards Galore. Idleon Toolbox. If they are active. (depends on the tier of soul and your progress. ago. I took this skill because I saw a post about killing crystals until it's capped out then go skilling. Sailing is a World 5 skill in Legends of Idleon that allows players to send captains out of voyages in the high seas to return with treasure and rarer treasure: ancient artifacts. Roll dice at silver level, pop at copper level. r/idleon. TLDR writing this guide so people don't waste time on W4 skills, W4 give exponential bonuses and 3 skills should be worked on in parallel. Legends of Idleon. Crystal countdown is bugged the cap is not working so adding additional points doesnt do anything. Crystal Carrots at Boops has to be the worst place for it. That is over 2000 active rate. Ah, my bad. So I took my DK, equipped him with as. Play IdleOn for free: Steam (recommended): crystal countdown and chocolate chip are a very powerful combo for leveling up maestro. ES is better at farming drops from regular mons than bubo or DK, for both the basic drops and rare drops like woodular circles. I think the best guy I have for farming them gets something like a 1/400 chance to spawn one (if the bonuses are multiplicative rather than additive)Enable/disable ability bar switching when weapon switching. At that point its better to farm crystals for CC first to minimize the XP needed for every skill. You can increase the chances of it spawning using the Crystals 4 dayys. And by crystals farming your Maestro will need less experience needed to level up all the skills up to World 4 skill set. Though you would have to pick up off the ground ever 25 mins or. Watch my last arcade ball go back at every bounce to the silver zone. Get enough beholder statues combined with talents and you’ll be 100% Critting and megacritting on your bubo before too long. Your other characters will be stuck in the lab, and sample materials for the 3D printer. So like Frogs, Shifty sandbox, Mustaches, Cans. C’mon out Crystals. NSFW_Nzdevil. oh i was wondering about the duration of items, thanks for that nugget of wisdom. While this feature would be great, you could just clean it up based on the monster you're farming. but that might turn the game to a laggy mess after some time so you still have to check the game and. Hold off until you can get a decent number of crystal spawn chance bonuses, since otherwise it'll take quite a while, but it's quite worthwhile to get it once you're in a position to do. #legandsofidleon #Legand. Things like crystal spawn and line length become pretty low priority later on with high lab level and high crystal spawn chance. After getting your card drop rate high farm drop rate cards there is quite a few of these, and include "Crystal carrot W1, Mimic world 2, King doot W2 mini boss, Bop box W3, Giftmas bobulyte event card" idk what the max here is but i get 81% drio rate, there is also Bosses and nightmares set bonus that gives drop rate bonus, Both archers and. Crystal Carrot has 15x HP, gives. Reroll Pls. You can increase the chances of it spawning using the Crystals 4 dayys. Idk about the highest but my maestro is 1/8 and my others are something in the 1/20ish, i though 1/27. I read something long ago about this that i don't fully remember. You are going to be needing plenty of extra skill points to be able to farm with him efficiently. If you need damage, Pincermin, Sand Giant, Dig Doug and Bean. WretcheddSkyz • 2 yr. 5x more damage than the enemies in the area it spawns in. The best place to farm for crystals in world 1 is Slimes, and for world 2 it's Sand Castles. Uwu can give you plenty of more kills per hour. Quick Maths: Walking. My dk is at stiltmoles right now, rushed from 130 to 200 just today with 127k acc farming crystals and moving on. Since you are asking you need the basics using what is available in W4. 13. Crystal Countdown. Base Class -> 1 Maestro - either for active crystal farming and/or boosting your other chars farming skills Add to that printing: Barb for fishing, Bowmen for catching, Bubonic for cranium cooking / alchemy - if you go with 2 Bubonics you could profit even more and alchemy is very important. once you unlock maestro next step is to lvl him up to class lvl 100-120. . Just so you know, choco chip is really good, but it won't make/break your game. WP is the biggest source of damage in the game. ago. 5x higher accuracy and does 2. A single crystal can be the difference between stalling for 3-4 seconds and machine gun spamming Raise Dead. org)) Hes a rare spawn. Plain ol' drop rate works too. Any chance someone with a REALLY low crystal rate could screenshot their hover of. . 3rd point, how would this. nicolaj1994 • 2 yr. Max crystal countdown, boost your crystal spawn chance. the cookie chip is huge. Show off cool items you've found, discuss the best builds for each class, and theorize about how to unlock the super secret areas!. max out crystal spawn chance Have Choco chip and equipped Do enough damage to kill crystalsmariomarine • In World 5 • 4 mo. Realistically, you'll also need XP because they kill so slowly, so add Crystal Crab, and if you're active farming, Moonmoon and Flies. Crystallin stamp is L140 +81%. ago. They felt more useful when i first got to w4 and. Cost: 0. Then teleport to the area, and switch card presets to your dr build. And check idleon efficiency to see which soul gives you the best xp / charge rate. But seriously, farm the dice obols first, get everyone decked with gold dice squares, then get everyone the plats and finally those sweet sparkle dice. if you're after something like the crystallin stamp that is a 1 in 10 drop. 005% chance of having that 1 specific stamp drop off any creature in W1. --> I would suggest using Maestro for active afk play. 10-20k statues per day (24/7) are doable. DreamingSylvestre • 3 yr. You get plenty of forging progress from its massive afk kill rates, so you don't really need active kills for it. if you're after something like. At a 1/40 crystal chance at least. DK is the best crystal farmer, due to AoE attacks and respawn mechanics. Even though the quantity is low, the DR makes up for it. CadetinSpace • 3 mo. Play IdleOn for free: Steam (recommended): Meet Plantcideon: type: Metal plant , Story : a Polut officer was experimenting on a antsee when a soul crystal fused with it to form a Carrot metal Like loomian , if attack they use their head (which is the bottom part) to drill in the ground and perform a upward attack with the metal part of body 13 Found good progress from my mastro crystal farming you get 20-25 cloud per crystal so with a cookie build about 10 instalab and 5 corporate too so i can get a few thousand cloud per 1-2 hours of active farm. But if you've already got 5+ other characters farming the same map AFK then that might not matter so much. •. Ive gotten 8 in a week off an active char. These were the go to jumping points for mass farming xp previous to the world 3 patch. The secret Journeyman class also has a class talent that also raises crystal rates. Crabcakes, also for the rare drop. You can also pen the shield to delete the entire shield count (requires at least 5 shield to do this though). r/idleon. As of right now, we don't exactly have a lot of damage, health, mana, etc. there is a 1 in 2000 chance for the crystal carrot to spawn, however that doesn't mean it WILL spawn as a garuntee in 2000, that's just the odds. That said, Crystal Carrot is the second best drop rate card (after Doot, which is much harder to farm), so farming it up to at least Gold is still a good idea. The only trick/bug about CC is that you need only 1 point in the skill to get max benefit. As title said, I'm almost done with all w1 and w2 onyx statues except for accuracy statue ( skipping for now) and needed tips on farming w3,4 and 5 statue. I fully understand the pressure to try and get the chip here in a few weeks since the next opportunity will be end of the year. r/idleon. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Press Copyright Contact us CreatorsVorrtaX In World 5 • 28 min. The small difference in spawns is not worth the loss. --> take a look at their loot tables and choose one you need/prefer. Make sure your 2x monster loot dropped is as high as possible from library. To give you an idea, i have a lvl 198 maestro with min 64 in all skills. •. r/idleon. Honestly I know nothing about the skill. Snelbies is the best I’ve found but it’s still a rare drop. Idle ingame vs offline. #2 kitten exterminator May 3, 2022 @ 7:43pm W1: Cards (Nutto, Baba Yaga) Equips (Goo Galoshes, Double Goopi) Keychains (Piggy Chain) Dungeon Flurbo. You'll get a level up in all of the skills you had at that point, then you can keep farming crystals to cap CC again for the next level. Still strugle with kitchen upgrades and pet arena in W4 and don't have all laboratory bonuses active. Walking. i actually tried a timer at neptuneyes but over 30 minutes the statue variance didn't seem to give a concrete. X to now ~8. After getting to lvl 350+ you can put your Bubonic on W1/2/3 maps to farm statues. 8 comments. Multitasking your farming is more powerful. Archers and maestro have an advantage due to. Once you have max reduction IE will show you the reduction % in green. Crystal Crabal has 15x HP, gives 30x EXP, requires 2. . ago. It is extremely inefficient to actually skill for your exp. all worlds are the same as in the mobs you see others can't see so there's no sharing mobs or kill stealing so anywhere you're able to farm is good , the best thing to. 5x more damage than the enemies in the area it spawns in. Then, level up all the gathering skills (and worship), then keep getting XP until you have whatever percent you need to level up next. There's a chance for one to spawn whenever you kill a monster, so you want as many as possible. Dropped from crystal enemies (any world) + LUK for every quest completed, capped at 4 per point invested: A: A difficult special talent to acquire that will require some crystal monster farming. at the bottom left you'll the amount of pens you have (given that you've hold-clic on them in your inventory beforehand to "cosume" them). Try to finish blunder hills but I started with giga frog and sandy box for more card drop rate the focused on the 3 main stats and accuracy cards for pushing/new characters. Respawning mob cards is ES (you can snapshot card drop using a second card preset with card drop cards on). Is it normal to get around 1k each of w3 statues per 8hrs with DK, 12x DR, 1/38 Crystal spawn, lv295 orb? Lvl295 orb is too much, you will. • 9 mo. This continues until a specific skill levels up. The more you kill, the higher your multikill multiplier becomes, meaning you will get through portals faster and get more XP and more monster drops. DK is king of obol farming despite the recent boner for ES. Pet storage, Fenceyard space, Carton of eggs too late game and non-essential. Just looking at the AFK gains it basically increases the exp by 40% from anything at my level (40-45). 1-> spec him to do damage and go lvl to lvl 100+. to start farming statues put your shrine in whatever world town or area you're planning to farm equip Chaotic chizoar card in the top left or bottom right slot to be doubled. ES is the best to actively farm normal mob rare drops (in this case hamsters). Rats are by far the best regular mob to farm them on. The typical strategy is to complete a bunch of the picnic basket quest to get the star talent book reward that increases crystal mobs spawn rates. 83 - Springtime Seasonal Event • Vman's Cooking talent now displays the actual bonus it gives, and yes, its a BIG number. This will help keep your Maestro ahead. One is poop card. Yuri_The_Avocado • 9 mo. r/idleon. ago. 1 point into first 10 skills, 20 into power of R. It works far better if you have 5%+ drop rate (Grounded Processor is great for this. 5k in an. Your crescent shrine is pretty close to leveling, try to get that as high as possible as. If you're crystal farming in W1, then you can take off the W2-exclusive drops to free up some space. Defense stamp can easily net you 15-25 defense, and you find it relatively early IIRC. For example, the Yum-Yum Desert set currently (as of 1. For card drop rates use snelby (W2), giga frog (W1) sir stache (w3) and any increased dmg/DR cards you have (for multikill, titrate to effect) and farm for cards with ur m-man on poops (sewers, w1) and a high dmg toon on demon genies (5th map,w4). Go to idleon r/idleon. it should work at a lesser rate than active farming, so people are still gonna do it actively. as for afk, its mainly gonna come down to who has higher DR and mobrespawn assuming they are all hitting the kill cap. Every 8 hours i’ll have my cauldrons maxed at 6000 liquid from bubo, divine knight is great for small maps that are difficult to farm and boosts. I show off some of the gains I've been able to get with this as. MarioRespecter. You can even even farm ghosts or Nugget cakes in the process to multi-task rare drops. If none of that matters, slimes or sticks since there are the most of them so raise dead comes off cooldown most consistently. You'll come across other sources of drop rate (obols, alchemy, Mimic card, Crystal Carrot card, post office, and probably some others I'm forgetting) once you get to w2, all of which will have a much more significant impact on your farming while costing relatively little. Drop rate cards can help too. The harder the mob the harder it is. Finally knocked out Throne of Herald. Do Tyson with Crystal Farm like someone else mentioned. other people have explained how to crystal farm, but ill give you my take on how to play early maestro. If. You need the tribe pigs quest, his location is in the last map of the jungle with gigafrogs, he is on the down left of the map, you need his 2nd quest active, first quest is to get the stamp from the gigafrogs battleaxe stamp or something and then you get the other quest, i think its crystal time stopper is the name. * active as in having idleon open on an old phone 24/7 while you. Play IdleOn for free: Steam (recommended):. As title said, I'm almost done with all w1 and w2 onyx statues except for accuracy statue ( skipping for now) and needed tips on farming w3,4 and 5 statue. Crystallin stamp keeps dropping : r/idleon. After that, you can farm 2 card/8h for most of the maps. Maestro will also give you 92% effi for other chars + 123% skill xp for other chars. There's no elite class for maestro, so the builds on idleoncompanion aren't outdated aside from the fix for crystal cooldown. there are three think i know that increase the chance. Gems help. That's why I left the previous list of mobs to farm. Sounds like you're doing everything right with crystal farming and ballooning fishing, etc. Type: Pet Crystal Used to purchase Pet Followers from the Companion Park. Play IdleOn for free: Steam (recommended): slots can be unlocked through rebirth, up to one per cauldron/miner. The best crystal farming maps will be the best plunder maps. Sometimes 2 crystal spawned in like 5 minutes and sometimes no crystal in hours. There also is a star talent that gives higher crystal. Crystal Countdown: One of your core talents in an active crystal farming build for the Maestro given it allows you to reduce the experience required to level up your skills with active gameplay. 92 points in Cmon Out Crystals (+143. Show off cool items you've found, discuss the best builds for each class, and theorize about how to unlock the super secret areas!. Refinery: Your refinery is good. r/idleon. 99%. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews. The C’mon Out Crystals talent increases the spawn rate of crystal mobs by up to 150%. IdleOn - The Idle MMO. The best spawn maps are best for crystal farming. 15% Total Damage/-7% AFK OR 2% respawn. Takes a while but youre better off usin bubo for class xp/liquid and mman for statues/cc. If you have Trasher then use it instead of Defender. Journeyman is proficient at getting cards, spawning more crystal monsters and has talents for bonus drop rate, but honestly I'm not sure how it'd measure up against a warrior or archer 🤷. If you have hundreds of boss keys saved up, then you can grind out a bunch against Efaunt or Chizoar. Go to idleon r/idleon. I've seen people get like a thousand statues in a couple hours of farming. 5x higher accuracy and does 2. r/idleon. Unity to significantly impact incremental games, charging up to $0. Fuck fishing and use balloons and CC all the way. This way. Crystal farming on a Maestro with Chocolate Chip from Lab yields stupid amounts of pens and statues. There is no multiplayer component to sailing. the other maps have useful statues aswell but those two. Crystal mobs spawn with 15 times more hp and 2. Card Search. PO Drop Box is +28% Crystal Spawn. You can increase the chances of it spawning using the Crystals 4 dayys. Eclipse_Two. That said. What are the best places in each world to farm crystal mobs while auto active? In W1, it is probably better to farm green mushrooms instead of slimes, so that you can also push up death note numbers to increase the lab money bonus from total green mushroom kills. And lack of respawn mechanics means it actually kills fewer crystals overall. class is still to new for people to have gathered data yet. DK has a lower barrier to entry as it's vastly easier to set up. There's a journeyman skill that increases crystal mob spawn rate when auto attack is turned off. Thank you for the info. At max lvl Cmon out crystals give you a bonus 184. If you have an active Maestro going, then it can get them. Go to idleon r/idleon • by. Open storage on other class. More stamps can be unlocked through Pig NPC's, Vendors, and Rare Drop Tables. No troll armor, just chizoar full set, lustre weapon and active exp and money cards Acc cards are absolute. Then stop leveling and only sample. Best. World 3. Millions, BILLIONS, I don't give a F** LETS GET COOKING!! • Both Smithing cards are now passive by. Crystal Creatures spawn at a rate of 1/2000, or . At the moment i'm killing crystal mobs until i need under 2m xp to lvl all my 64 skills up once. Reduces lag a lot. A practical way to farm crystals and check your CC reduction is using IE, players->maestro->skills. Farm statues on DK. I will post my IdleonEfficiency shortly, just hoping someone can suggest something obvious I've missed. ago. W1/Winding Willows (Baby Boa), Acc 67 should be enough for 100% crystal carrot. It's getting to be that time of the year. Show off cool items you've found, discuss the best builds for each class, and theorize about how to unlock the super secret areas!. Boops and effaunt when you get them. Tab 2 skills for your mages should be considered as follows: Inner Peace: Useful during early progression to maximise how fast you gain levels in chopping this can be a place to invest your talent points when you are farming a log that you already have sufficient efficiency for and can be a good way to push higher levels for better hatchets. As you breeze through the mobs, it seems like nothing is going to stop you, until the Massive Troll knocks you down. I have "Crystal Crime Stopper" on my quest helper right now, asking for a Crystallin. Go to idleon r/idleon. Show off cool items you've found, discuss the best builds for each class, and theorize about how to unlock the super secret areas!. Aim for like 1 of 16 rate for spawning crystals on maestro. DK is best for crystal farming because orb kills have a weird droprate multiplier, it effects rare drops. Adding on point 3: Grab mob respawn & multikill pendant from dungeon + all mob respawn% keychains you can get. Multitasking your farming is more powerful. If you aren't at Rams in W3 Snowflakes is a good place to farm. Show off cool items you've found, discuss the best builds for each class, and theorize about how to unlock the super secret areas!. From there you are able to unlock various bonuses by using your uploaded characters as light beam foci and connecting them together to link to various bonuses. Type: Misc Stamp +% Crystal Monster Spawn ChanceThe Crystal Custard is a rare enemy that has a 1 in 2,000 chance to spawn whenever you kill an enemy in Hyperion Nebula (World 4). Active farming will roll for every enemy killed so technically you would get more loot there. then prioritise. youll need some extra. Login. Where this really shines is if you leave the game running and max your crystal spawn chances. Active is more efficient, in fact afk% relates to the percentage of what you'd get while active (theoretically at least) thing is money vanishes in 20m and items in 1h. They give good money but most importantly you will be needing Pealer Shells for various tools/bags. Timestamps:0:00 - Intro0:21 - How to get started0:38 - Golden Statue1:12 - All statues in order3:38 - Snake Skin vial3:44 - Farming Crystal Monsters4:12 - Le. Go to idleon r/idleon. Show off cool items you've found, discuss the best builds for each class, and theorize about how to unlock the super secret areas!. And DK is so slow even to get the statues. 1 point into first 10 skills, 20 into power of R. Counts Mining, Smithing, Choppin, Fishing, Alchemy, Catching, Trapping, Construction, and Worship. Idleon Siege Breaker Sailing Build. World 2 Statues You want the genie card and poop card maxed and using the card doubler chips (250% extra crystal spawn chance). eventually you will have all the cards at 3 star (except some really hard to. For minibosses (Biggie Hours & King Doot) you’ll want to hit. IdleOn playlist: So. 15% Class EXP when fighting actively. I farm mine at green spore but im pretty sure that's not optimal haha. 5x more damage than the enemies in the area it spawns in. In addition to these bonuses a character with sufficient Lab levels can. Idleon Toolbox * Please consider disabling your ad-blocker to show your support for the platform, ensuring free access to valuable content for all users Power up your Legends of Idleon adventure with Idleon Toolbox's essential tools and resources for optimizing gameplay, character builds, crafting, and more. e. active but you get more kills/hr active so it’s generally better to farm that way. Parking an active Maestro with fully invested crystal spawn rates from talents and cards at Dessert Dunes or Shifty Sandbox for a while will build up a ton of dice obols. Now the video that was made was over a year old and it didnt take into account card drop upgrades. Also Sorry for taking so long. But the bare minimum is Choco chip(W4 Lab). Rando Island gives you a way to spend bottles, so it is less important. I figured the combat would be tougher, but overall still a fun challenge. . If they need more points to cap all their skill talents, take them out a bit for some progression and active crystal farming in world 4. r/idleon. Haven’t seen or heard of anything. GameStop Moderna Pfizer Johnson & Johnson AstraZeneca Walgreens Best Buy Novavax SpaceX Tesla. then just clic on the silver pen icon in the po box and select the boxes you want to reset. Overnight my bubonic was getting 15+ pens. Afaik bubo is capable of even more too. So I took my DK, equipped him with as. Stamps. Note that you have to be actively playing for crystal mobs to spawn and their strength is a multiple of the current mob you are fighting so you’ll want to fight in a. Once you have max reduction IE will show you the reduction % in green. This will make it much easier to farm drops. Star Signs. Brightside are good for rare drops Clammie and Slugma for farming normal drops (Multikill) Biggie Hours, Efaunt, Crystal Cattle/Crabal for EXP Remember, damage only matters for AFK if it pushes you into a new Multikill Tier, so just going for straight up damage isn't always the best. In the long run, it's no different in terms of the total exp you need to level the skills, but it means you can have longer sessions of skilling or crystal farming so you don't. . Defeat every Cryosnake Bop Box and Neyeptune before time runs out. Music: Late Nights by LiQWYDSo I just started farming crystals. 2nd point, it should work at a lesser rate than active farming, so people are still gonna do it actively. I saw a video on youtube about farming cards and it stated that you have a 1 in 2000 if you play actively (i assume just having the game open) but while you have it going as afk you have a 1-10000 chance. But yeah definitely exists. I think either of those work fine. Join. ago. VaniionNZ • 1 yr. 22K views 1 year ago. Lately I’ve seen a lot of Maestro/Vman talk about how they are the best for farming crystals, although I don’t have Vman. Use a Chocochip to get a lot more crystal killing in. The typical strategy is to complete a bunch of the picnic basket quest to get the star talent book reward that increases crystal mobs spawn rates. ago. There's a lot you're missing from the other worlds especially W4 that would boost xp rates. A higher crystal chance probably makes beans better overall, I guess. r/idleon. The Crystal Crabal is a rare enemy that has a 1 in 2,000 chance to spawn whenever you kill an enemy in Yum-Yum Desert (World 2). That number is per hour afk. If they need more points to cap all their skill talents, take them out a bit for some progression and active crystal farming in world 4. Crystal Custard has 15x HP, gives 30x EXP, requires 2. 143. Since the Chocolate Chip is nearly here, I wanted to start with Obols till at least then. If you don't have "Shrine World Tour" and all shrines placed in the town zone of the world you want to farm crystals in -> you need to add the shrines to the zone you want to farm them. i've never used poison bottles ever since crystal farming because it mucks with cc. W2 sandcastles crystal farming gets good pens/day by spawning huge amounts of them. Make sure you use all 3 speed potions (s,m,l)when you're farming for best dmg results. Card drop rate. Yo, I farmed for like 2 days active on my journeyman. . That is over 2000 active rate. That said, Crystal Carrot is the second best drop rate card (after Doot, which is much harder to farm), so farming it up to at least Gold is still a good idea. Reply reply weltschmerz79 • yes, my aura is 7 width. Get enough beholder statues combined with talents and you’ll be 100% Critting and megacritting on your bubo before too long. So u won't bother with the skill stats (str, wis or agi) to level up your Maestro skills. I have 65 and missed 100% for 30 mins while also killing snakes around. Basic principles. 1 comment. Every time you kill a crystal mob on a Maestro the max experience (of a random skill) required to level will be multiplied by 0. The overall amount of statues was much better on beans though. Think of it this way- if it's on the first page of the card, use ES. After that, the squares you can do w2. to start farming statues put your shrine in whatever world town or area you're planning to farm equip Chaotic chizoar card in the top left or bottom right slot to be doubled. Idleoncompanion. It's time to venture into the depths of idleon and grab some crystal farming goodness! In this Legends of Idleon guide, we'll show you how. ago. 7 drop rarity for the rare drop power staue on snakes. What's going on? Another Episode of the Ultimate Combat Guide with Crystal Spawns and tips for Statue Farming! 🏆Second Channel: / @griffybittv 📺 Twitch :. Droptables. Go to idleon r/idleon • by. The Breeding skill is a multifacited skill located in the World 4 town. Show off cool items you've found, discuss the best builds for each class, and theorize about how to unlock the super secret areas!. I think there is some sort of glitch with them. in the sailing progress there are two options of claiming sailing chests. ago. Crystallin stamp is L140 +81%. Go to idleon r/idleon. THEN you add ontop the drop rate of the Crystallin itself and you drop down to base rate of . alventouille • 1 yr. Edit: but you'll need monster parts and cards too, so honestly you could go wherever you need stuff. 62% extra crystal spawn chance. Slimes, snakes and carrots have the power statue in their drop table which is why you get more. There are quests and bonuses you only get through Journeyman, but the family bonus is luck which isn't great in Idleon. Max out all the crystal spawn rates you can, get a chocochip and the 2 card doubling chips, and max. Your “cmon out crystals” talent is only lvl 100, hit that with some books and get it as high as you can. .